Really Bad Day On the Reef!

i would suggest getting a cosmetus wrasse like jaime said.. they are great pest control fishies.. i have one in my tank and it inspects everything in my tank.. Hes like the TSA in my aquarium
 
Jep21 said:
i would suggest getting a cosmetus wrasse like jaime said.. they are great pest control fishies.. i have one in my tank and it inspects everything in my tank.. Hes like the TSA in my aquarium
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Where does one get a cosmetus?
 
cosmetus wrasse====they can get mean. I had one and it started chasing everything all of the sudden. Really going after everything smaller than him. They are nice looking fish thoughh and I never ever had or seen a pest when I had him.
 
kdog23 said:
cosmetus wrasse====they can get mean. I had one and it started chasing everything all of the sudden. Really going after everything smaller than him. They are nice looking fish thoughh and I never ever had or seen a pest when I had him.
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I think he'd be kept in check in my tank. Two big triggers, PBT, adult emperor......


Thanks for all of the help everyone. This isn't going to be easy. I'll update this thread with my progress/plans.
 
Wrasses will only help you control the issue, and that depends on fish too, some will not actively hunt for flatworms unless you blow them off and they are in water column. To eradicate them you need to remove all your acros and dip them for few weeks until you don't see them anymore. You have to break their life cycle to be successful. Trust me, I dealt with them not that long ago. Here is a good read that helped me to get rid of them.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2263491&highlight=aefw+treatment
 
This is what I figured. My triggers already eat them when in the water column. Did you set up a qt for the acros or just dip the daily and return them to the DT daily?
 
I am sorry to see you going through this because, I myself believe I'm going through this. I found a frag about 3.5 weeks ago, with "bite marks" and what I thought was eggs, but upon dipping I saw no adults like you have there..... I'm praying I found the one coral, but google'ing and looking at others, I'm suspecting we're both in deep crap.

My frag tank and QT are cycling now, and would love to chat about your experiences. From what I have seen, basting, using wrasses are NOT a long term solution and will not solve our problem(s). I'm assuming I have them, although I haven't seen evidence like what you have.. I'm praying maybe I misdiagnosed. I have a melanurus and two yellow wrasses, but don't expect them to fix you.

We also have corals from similar sources, so would be curious to chat if there are links. I have a lot of nice SPS in my DT, but likely will never be able to sell them directly out of there because of always having that chance of AEFW, so everything will get cut form DT, move into QT, then into frag tank...

Sucks, but I am seeing AEFW threads everywhere now all of a sudden.. Don't rely on wrasses, that will NOT fix this problem.
 
xtlosx said:
I am sorry to see you going through this because, I myself believe I'm going through this. I found a frag about 3.5 weeks ago, with "bite marks" and what I thought was eggs, but upon dipping I saw no adults like you have there..... I'm praying I found the one coral, but google'ing and looking at others, I'm suspecting we're both in deep crap.

My frag tank and QT are cycling now, and would love to chat about your experiences. From what I have seen, basting, using wrasses are NOT a long term solution and will not solve our problem(s). I'm assuming I have them, although I haven't seen evidence like what you have.. I'm praying maybe I misdiagnosed. I have a melanurus and two yellow wrasses, but don't expect them to fix you.

We also have corals from similar sources, so would be curious to chat if there are links. I have a lot of nice SPS in my DT, but likely will never be able to sell them directly out of there because of always having that chance of AEFW, so everything will get cut form DT, move into QT, then into frag tank...

Sucks, but I am seeing AEFW threads everywhere now all of a sudden.. Don't rely on wrasses, that will NOT fix this problem.
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I was basting the detritus off of my Palmer's a few weeks ago and saw what looked like a flatworm fly off of it. My trigger promptly ate it so I was unable to inspect it. Then, for the last few weeks, my corals have actually looked really good. Last night, I was moving a milli that wasn't places in an ideal location and I saw unmistakable bit marks on the bottom side. Then I began basing everything. Tons of them came off of a pink milli. A couple off of my green slimer. A couple off of other corals. My triggers and even my two clowns ate all of them.

As for where they came from, I'm not worried about it. It is my responsibility. I have always dipped with melafix but it clearly doesn't do the job on aefw. I'm not even worried about selling stuff. I just don't want all of my coral to die.

I'm going to do the Bayer dip process, but I don't have high hopes for for my acro survival.

Oh well, tank reset. I still have a decent amount of non-acro sps.
 
Sawdonkey said:
I was basting the detritus off of my Palmer's a few weeks ago and saw what looked like a flatworm fly off of it. My trigger promptly ate it so I was unable to inspect it. Then, for the last few weeks, my corals have actually looked really good. Last night, I was moving a milli that wasn't places in an ideal location and I saw unmistakable bit marks on the bottom side. Then I began basing everything. Tons of them came off of a pink milli. A couple off of my green slimer. A couple off of other corals. My triggers and even my two clowns ate all of them.

As for where they came from, I'm not worried about it. It is my responsibility. I have always dipped with melafix but it clearly doesn't do the job on aefw. I'm not even worried about selling stuff. I just don't want all of my coral to die.

I'm going to do the Bayer dip process, but I don't have high hopes for for my acro survival.

Oh well, tank reset. I still have a decent amount of non-acro sps.
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Don't give up, they can be beaten it just takes some work. Bayer dip kills the adults, or at least stuns them into submission and then you just need to dip until the eggs and their life cycle is disrupted. I'm hoping I may have gotten lucky and did just that. Whenever my frag tank gets up, I'm going to start moving copies of everything in there as backup, but if I need to, yea an acro reset will be in order.. I'm praying that's NOT the case.

After reading your thread, I started basting my acros this morning and still nothing is coming off of them.. I don't know if I'm just very lucky to have caught it when I did, or naive in thinking I got that lucky.. Time will tell.
 
xtlosx said:
Don't give up, they can be beaten it just takes some work. Bayer dip kills the adults, or at least stuns them into submission and then you just need to dip until the eggs and their life cycle is disrupted. I'm hoping I may have gotten lucky and did just that. Whenever my frag tank gets up, I'm going to start moving copies of everything in there as backup, but if I need to, yea an acro reset will be in order.. I'm praying that's NOT the case.

After reading your thread, I started basting my acros this morning and still nothing is coming off of them.. I don't know if I'm just very lucky to have caught it when I did, or naive in thinking I got that lucky.. Time will tell.
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You really gotta bast them hard to get them to blow off. You nearly have to blow the skin off of your acros.
 
Sawdonkey said:
I was basting the detritus off of my Palmer's a few weeks ago and saw what looked like a flatworm fly off of it. My trigger promptly ate it so I was unable to inspect it. Then, for the last few weeks, my corals have actually looked really good. Last night, I was moving a milli that wasn't places in an ideal location and I saw unmistakable bit marks on the bottom side. Then I began basing everything. Tons of them came off of a pink milli. A couple off of my green slimer. A couple off of other corals. My triggers and even my two clowns ate all of them.

As for where they came from, I'm not worried about it. It is my responsibility. I have always dipped with melafix but it clearly doesn't do the job on aefw. I'm not even worried about selling stuff. I just don't want all of my coral to die.

I'm going to do the Bayer dip process, but I don't have high hopes for for my acro survival.

Oh well, tank reset. I still have a decent amount of non-acro sps.
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I would take those two colonies out and inspect for eggs at the bases although they can get around in the tank thet usually stick around on the colony till it dies. Of course they can get blown by power heads but u can improve your chances by finding the main source . They seem to love millies idk why its not a hopeless battle but is very time consuming good luck man
 
Take frags of each colony and dip and place in QT/frag tank until you eradicate the worms, for back up purposes. Remember, you cannot dip the smooth skin acros, just have to QT them.
 
Yikes... Not good.. Sorry for all your troubles man. I dealt with them a few times and def no fun. Hopefully those are the only eggs you find.
 
ColaAddict said:
I have heard people successfully dipping smooth skinned acro in Bayer. I've killed a bunch of smooth / deepwater acro with other dips.
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Thanks for the info. I had much higher death rates when using iodine dips, thanks goodness for the first guy to use bayer.
 
Bayer is definitely legit. It will nuke the fw. Like I stated before the issue is the eggs not the worms. Check out the articles I posted on this thread. They can be beat with some time and effort.

Bayer dip ftw....great time if year to buy it to might I add
 
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