I see what u are say but Greg said u would need a foot print of 8x2 which mite be wrong mite be right if u go on liveaquaria.com u only need a 150 for a blue spotted ray and a 180 for a Cortez ray which mite be right mite be wrong I don't know which is right thats why I asked the ? Instead of pufferpunk being negative about the thread she should post something helpful isn't that the point of creating a thread to pick other people's brains for the right info
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Those are likely the minimum requirements for the tiniest of stingrays they sell. As soon as it grows a couple months, you cant go with the minimum value anymore. (Why people consider doing the absolute minimum to begin with, I don't really get.)
Even if you go by their minimum values, you can have a 180g thats (LxWxH) 12ft x 2ft x 1ft, or 8ft x 3ft x 1ft, etc. You can definitely keep a coupe rays happy in those tanks!
You cant go with a column tank that has a 1ft x 2ft footprint thats 12ft high and say: see 180g, I can keep multiple stingrays!
Its about the footprint, not the volume. Im sure 220g is enough water volume for the rays. Thats not the issue.
If your 220g is 15ft x 2ft x 1ft, or maybe 10ft x 3ft x1ft, then by all means get them!
Otherwise, I believe you should not get them.
As others stated previously, people usually look until they find one person who tells them what they want to hear, and ignore everyone who spoke against it.
I would LOVE to have a couple small round cali/cortez rays, but I just don't have the tank they need. The animal's needs comes before my wants. Me and my conscience could be completely wrong, but Ive seen animals in small tanks and I felt horrible. I am more 'extreme' than most people about tank sizes.
For many people, their wants come before the animal's needs. Its my money, I can do with it what I want attitude (sometimes its not an attitude, they literally say it).
No one is going to stop from buying them, you can do whatever you wish. People have done much worse than a small round stingray in a 220, but that doesn't make it ok. If the tank was 90% sandbed, and at least 6ft x 2ft footprint. It wouldn't be HORRIBLE to get a tiny round ray. I definitely wouldn't recommend it, but it wouldn't be that horrible, as long as you were upgrading in the future to a larger footprint...
