Why using tap water is bad.

Smitty

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Why using tap water is a bad idea


Almost every newcomer to the hobby asks the same question…Can I not just use tap water in my tank?...The anwer to this is a resounding unequivacal NO! This article will hopefully tell you why using tap water can lead to disaster in a marine tank.

Natural sea water (NSW) contains hundreds of trace elements that used by the various species found on the reef from fish to corals and invertebrates. Due to the enormity of the seas around the world, these elements are extremely stable and the creatures that live in them are unused to substantial changes. It is therefore extremely important that the water in your little slice of the ocean is in top condition.

It is quite natural to think that tap water is safe for human consumption so it must be safe to use in a fish tank. However, there are many chemicals added to water that are completely unsuitable for a reef tank. One of the major problems from using tap water comes from fertilizers. These are used by farmers to grow crops and as such contain huge amounts of phosphate and nitrate. When it rains the fertilizers are washed into the water supply. The water company does not remove them because they are not dangerous for humans however, in a reef tank high levels of phosphates and nitrates can lead to a major problem with algae which is unlikely to go away since every time you perform a water change you are literally feeding the algae.

If this wasn’t enough to convince you, there is also a more life-threatening (for your livestock) consequence. The majority of water pipes are made from metals, especially copper. Water travelling through these pipes picks up some of this copper. If it is introduced into your tank, even at low levels, it can be fatal to all invertebrates within your system.

So what is the solution? The best thing you can do when setting up a tank is use water which has been through a reverse osmosis (RO) unit. This removes all impurities from the water and gives you a blank canvas with which you can add salt and any other trace elements you see fit. On average a RO unit will remove 95-97% of all total dissolved solids (TDS) from tap water. This can be increased to around 100% by adding a de-ionisation (DI) stage to the unit.

The cost of a RO unit varies on the amound of water you require from it but for a typical 40 gallon tank, a RO unit can be picked up for around $100. A RO unit is quite wasteful with water with around a 3:1 waste to actual RO output therefore some people also worry about the cost of additional water use. However, when actually calculated the additional cost is very small. If you want to do a 10% water change on a 40 gallon tank, you will need around 16 gallons of untreated tap water. This costs around 16cents per week. If the cost of buying a unit outright is too prohibitive, you can buy RO water from your LFS for around $1-2 a gallon however, you will need to test it as some LFSs have been known to sell less than high quality water.

As a closing point, it is important to add that the cost of owning a RO unit is much cheaper than the cost of extra equipment and effort required to battle the inevitable algae problems you will suffer. It cannot be stressed enough how important using RO water is. If you don’t have one, buy an RO unit now!
 
Smitty - Your article is a good one. I purchased a RODI system last summer and set it up in my basement. I have two 45 gallon plastic trash cans that in one tank I have fresh and the other I mix salt. I always have on hand fresh RODI water for topoff and have water to mix salt for water changes.

This system supports my 72 gal bow front reef, my 29 gal and 8 gal Bio Cubes.....plus a 29 gallon FW tank. I also have a neighbor who has a 90 gal reef that gets both fresh and mix from me. In a sentence....it has been the best investment in this hobby that I have ever made....period.

Beyond the benfits you state in your note above, there is the convenience factor. Before this....we had to schlep water jugs back and forth to a LFS. What a PIA. Then there was all the times that we ran out of top off and had to wait for a LFS to open....or use Distilled or even tap if we had no choice. Now, I have my system running downstairs and whenever I need it.... I walk down and get it.

Here is a picture of my setup....

4977081459_f29867cd36.jpg


Note I have new trash cans now...these were temporary and sprung leaks. I do not have a new picture yet....but can share later when my wife returns with the camera. This set up works brilliantly.

All in....maybe...maybe...$200...$250 for parts and filter.....with exception of a heater and a water pump that I use in the pre-mix tank.

PM me if anyone has questions.

Dan
 
Smitty - Your article is a good one. I purchased a RODI system last summer and set it up in my basement. I have two 45 gallon plastic trash cans that in one tank I have fresh and the other I mix salt. I always have on hand fresh RODI water for topoff and have water to mix salt for water changes.

This system supports my 72 gal bow front reef, my 29 gal and 8 gal Bio Cubes.....plus a 29 gallon FW tank. I also have a neighbor who has a 90 gal reef that gets both fresh and mix from me. In a sentence....it has been the best investment in this hobby that I have ever made....period.

Beyond the benfits you state in your note above, there is the convenience factor. Before this....we had to schlep water jugs back and forth to a LFS. What a PIA. Then there was all the times that we ran out of top off and had to wait for a LFS to open....or use Distilled or even tap if we had no choice. Now, I have my system running downstairs and whenever I need it.... I walk down and get it.

Here is a picture of my setup....

4977081459_f29867cd36.jpg


Note I have new trash cans now...these were temporary and sprung leaks. I do not have a new picture yet....but can share later when my wife returns with the camera. This set up works brilliantly.

All in....maybe...maybe...$200...$250 for parts and filter.....with exception of a heater and a water pump that I use in the pre-mix tank.

PM me if anyone has questions.

Dan

if you lived close by id buy water from you :-)
 
Hey, you're right down the road from me!! Nice setup, looks well done. I just get my water at "Exotic Aquatics" and haven't had any issues so far. What's your experience with them?



Smitty - Your article is a good one. I purchased a RODI system last summer and set it up in my basement. I have two 45 gallon plastic trash cans that in one tank I have fresh and the other I mix salt. I always have on hand fresh RODI water for topoff and have water to mix salt for water changes.

This system supports my 72 gal bow front reef, my 29 gal and 8 gal Bio Cubes.....plus a 29 gallon FW tank. I also have a neighbor who has a 90 gal reef that gets both fresh and mix from me. In a sentence....it has been the best investment in this hobby that I have ever made....period.

Beyond the benfits you state in your note above, there is the convenience factor. Before this....we had to schlep water jugs back and forth to a LFS. What a PIA. Then there was all the times that we ran out of top off and had to wait for a LFS to open....or use Distilled or even tap if we had no choice. Now, I have my system running downstairs and whenever I need it.... I walk down and get it.

Here is a picture of my setup....

4977081459_f29867cd36.jpg


Note I have new trash cans now...these were temporary and sprung leaks. I do not have a new picture yet....but can share later when my wife returns with the camera. This set up works brilliantly.

All in....maybe...maybe...$200...$250 for parts and filter.....with exception of a heater and a water pump that I use in the pre-mix tank.

PM me if anyone has questions.

Dan
 
They are ok.... I have visited Jeff and the team there when they had the old store off of Algonquin Road and Aaron was a partner of his. I have gotten some diatom blooms when using water from Exotic. I cannot put my finger on them..... By having my own system.....I can manage the output... so I am happy with both the convenience and the quality of the water I get now.

I also like to travel to many different stores all over the area. Exotic is close and I have purchased some dry good and equipment as well as some live stock from them. I also have purchase some frags from his tank. His selection is not all that great though.
 
Agreed, his selection on frags wasn't all that great, but he now has dedicated the front frag tanks to SPS only, and setting up an LPS (which I love) toward the back. He has been I would say, lazy with the store for the past couple of months but I think with what he's been doing in the last couple of days he's getting into gear.

They are very convenient from me, couple minutes away, if that, so it works. I get my reef water exclusively from them and have never had any algae issues, tank is as clean as a whistle.

I do like their $10 frag selections though. I go to Birds & Beasts for their fish, and some colonies, but there is something about a nice cheap small frag that I can't seem to resist.. He just fragged a bunch of hammers, frogspawns, candy canes, and trumpets yesterday. I picked up a 3 headed candy cane for $10. Can't beat it!


They are ok.... I have visited Jeff and the team there when they had the old store off of Algonquin Road and Aaron was a partner of his. I have gotten some diatom blooms when using water from Exotic. I cannot put my finger on them..... By having my own system.....I can manage the output... so I am happy with both the convenience and the quality of the water I get now.

I also like to travel to many different stores all over the area. Exotic is close and I have purchased some dry good and equipment as well as some live stock from them. I also have purchase some frags from his tank. His selection is not all that great though.
 
Smitty - Your article is a good one. I purchased a RODI system last summer and set it up in my basement. I have two 45 gallon plastic trash cans that in one tank I have fresh and the other I mix salt. I always have on hand fresh RODI water for topoff and have water to mix salt for water changes.

This system supports my 72 gal bow front reef, my 29 gal and 8 gal Bio Cubes.....plus a 29 gallon FW tank. I also have a neighbor who has a 90 gal reef that gets both fresh and mix from me. In a sentence....it has been the best investment in this hobby that I have ever made....period.

Beyond the benfits you state in your note above, there is the convenience factor. Before this....we had to schlep water jugs back and forth to a LFS. What a PIA. Then there was all the times that we ran out of top off and had to wait for a LFS to open....or use Distilled or even tap if we had no choice. Now, I have my system running downstairs and whenever I need it.... I walk down and get it.

Here is a picture of my setup....

4977081459_f29867cd36.jpg


Note I have new trash cans now...these were temporary and sprung leaks. I do not have a new picture yet....but can share later when my wife returns with the camera. This set up works brilliantly.

All in....maybe...maybe...$200...$250 for parts and filter.....with exception of a heater and a water pump that I use in the pre-mix tank.

PM me if anyone has questions.

Dan

Where do you go with waste water?
 
I've never used tap in my tank with coral or fish in there. I did cycle with though. I completely drained the tank and sump before I added livestock.
 
That's a really cool setup. I may have to do something similar once I get mine set up.


Also, I'm glad I was told from the very beginning not to use tap water for my salt tanks.
 
Smitty - Your article is a good one. I purchased a RODI system last summer and set it up in my basement. I have two 45 gallon plastic trash cans that in one tank I have fresh and the other I mix salt. I always have on hand fresh RODI water for topoff and have water to mix salt for water changes.

This system supports my 72 gal bow front reef, my 29 gal and 8 gal Bio Cubes.....plus a 29 gallon FW tank. I also have a neighbor who has a 90 gal reef that gets both fresh and mix from me. In a sentence....it has been the best investment in this hobby that I have ever made....period.

Beyond the benfits you state in your note above, there is the convenience factor. Before this....we had to schlep water jugs back and forth to a LFS. What a PIA. Then there was all the times that we ran out of top off and had to wait for a LFS to open....or use Distilled or even tap if we had no choice. Now, I have my system running downstairs and whenever I need it.... I walk down and get it.

Here is a picture of my setup....

4977081459_f29867cd36.jpg


Note I have new trash cans now...these were temporary and sprung leaks. I do not have a new picture yet....but can share later when my wife returns with the camera. This set up works brilliantly.

All in....maybe...maybe...$200...$250 for parts and filter.....with exception of a heater and a water pump that I use in the pre-mix tank.

PM me if anyone has questions.

Dan

Looks awesome. Similiar to the set-up i'm building but mine is going to be plumbed directly to the tank so i can add SW without having to lift anything. Just a switch of some valves and i'm done.
 
Hmm...I might have to rig something like this up.

Dumb question.... 3 ball valves? one going to each garbage and one going to spout? When transferring water from RO/DI Can to mixing can, how does it fill the empty (mixing) can if plumbing is at the bottom? I would think since its fighting gravity (water-line rising above plumbing) it wouldn't fill... am i missing something?
 
When u come over, i'l show u my set-up that i have planned. My set-up willl require no buckets for draining or filling my sump. But mines in the basment so it might be different story then for u
 
Hmm...I might have to rig something like this up.

Dumb question.... 3 ball valves? one going to each garbage and one going to spout? When transferring water from RO/DI Can to mixing can, how does it fill the empty (mixing) can if plumbing is at the bottom? I would think since its fighting gravity (water-line rising above plumbing) it wouldn't fill... am i missing something?

Here's a rough sketch of my original idea. It's changed a little since then but i think my system is going to have 6 valves for controlling seperate things

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Hmm...I might have to rig something like this up.

Dumb question.... 3 ball valves? one going to each garbage and one going to spout? When transferring water from RO/DI Can to mixing can, how does it fill the empty (mixing) can if plumbing is at the bottom? I would think since its fighting gravity (water-line rising above plumbing) it wouldn't fill... am i missing something?

I have the exact same setup as Dan except I used 30G Brutes. He gave me the idea to do this. When you have the valves open between the connecting pipe the water rises in both reseviors equally. Once both are filled you close them off from each other and make your salt in one of them. Once the saltwater is gone you open the valves beween the two and the presure from the already full rodi will keep whatever remaining saltwater is left from bleeding into the rodi.
It is just a matter of opening the spout valve with one of the other vales depending on if you want fresh or salt.
 
While I agree with what you're saying, I was very successful with tap water in my FOWLR for 10+ years. I never had algae issues, my tank looked pristine, and I have some really old fish (8-10 years).

I use only RODI these days because I'm going to corals and nems, but if I were to go back to FOWLR, I'd probably just use tap. Sorry, I know everyone here probably disagrees. Just my two cents.
 
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